In this episode of Faces of Digital Health, Tjaša Zajc speaks with Dale Atkinson, a stage 4 oesophageal cancer patient who was told he had 11.5 months to live—and who is still alive today. Dale shares how he applied his compliance and investigation skills to healthcare: reading thousands of research papers, building a research-grounded AI workflow to sense-check drug interactions and pathways, and learning how to communicate with clinicians to be taken seriously.
We discuss patient agency, the doctor–patient relationship, the promise (and risks) of AI for patients, the digital divide in healthcare, and why quality of life must be central to care decisions. Dale also shares how his journey led to new work in patient advocacy, the Beyond the Standard foundation, and the Clear Path Clinic vision for integrative oncology and wellness.
Topics include: patient empowerment, AI in patient journeys, evidence-based complementary approaches, healthcare equity, clinician workload, prognosis anxiety, and new patient-led models of care.
TIMESTAMPS (CHAPTER-STYLE)
* 00:01 Intro: why patient agency matters more as systems strain
* 04:12 Dale’s story begins: diagnosis after wife’s lung cancer + mother’s death
* 07:22 Stage 4, inoperable, palliative care: the emotional impact
* 08:31 Asking for a timeline: why Dale wanted prognosis data
* 09:18 How a financial crime investigator becomes a “patient investigator”
* 10:55 The deep dive: thousands of papers, books, and expert conversations
* 12:09 Where AI enters: building a research-grounded model for sense-checking
* 15:00 Standard of care + complementary approach (not “alternative”)
* 16:08 Friction with clinical advice; nutrition and chemo trade-offs
* 17:48 Choosing treatments based on quality of life and realistic benefit
* 20:06 When Dale felt the trajectory could change: from survival to stability
* 21:11 Anxiety, recurrence risk, and “no evidence of disease” vs remission
* 24:46 Missed symptoms, dismissal, and why patient agency is learned the hard way
* 28:32 “Love-hate” to collaborative: a new model for doctor–patient dynamics
* 32:16 How to communicate to be heard: bite-sized, stakeholder-specific info
* 35:28 Clinicians under pressure: emotional load and “factory line” care reality
* 37:58 AI impact in the patient community—and why it’s accelerating
* 40:27 Digital divide concerns: will digital skills determine outcomes?
* 42:36 AI and emotion: pessimism loops, “horror statistics,” and mental safety
* 45:02 A new career: Beyond the Standard, Clear Path Clinic, book, advisory work
* 49:25 Closing reflections and thanks
Video: https://youtu.be/VeIZkRraxWc
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