Dreamland

What if the most famous UFO abduction case in American history is only a fragment of a much larger event?

In this episode of Dreamland, Whitley Strieber speaks with Dr. Irene Scott about the 1973 Pascagoula UFO incident—and the shocking new evidence that expands it far beyond  the abduction of two men on a fishing pier.

Dr. Scott reveals a hidden layer of the case: a massive, unexplained sound heard across hundreds of miles at the exact time of the घटना, multiple witnesses, and a possible connection to advanced nuclear facilities. Even more startling, the Pascagoula site may link forward in time to the USS Nimitz UFO encounter—suggesting a pattern that spans decades.

Was this a simple encounter… or part of a coordinated, large-scale event involving technology, intelligence operations, and something that understands time itself?

This is not just a UFO story. It may be one of the deepest mysteries ever uncovered.

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On this episode, guest host James Faulk from the Neon Galactic podcast interviews Ronny Leblanc from the Travel Channel’s hit show “Expedition Bigfoot,” about his lifetime of experiences, and how he believes cryptids, UFOs, and other anomalies are all manifestations of contact between consensual reality and an as yet unknown but adjacent part of the universe.

We discuss aspects of Leblanc’s new book, “Interdimensional: Consciousness, Cryptids, and the Hidden Architecture of Reality,” which draws upon the work of John Keel, Jacques Vallee, and others, to assemble a coherent picture of consciousness and the strange. 

Leblanc describes his own journey of discovery, including several encounters with exotic beings and other phenomena, and describes his own sense that the universe has paved the road for him to pursue these subjects. We also examine how these encounters often spur deep spiritual transformations in the witnesses, and what this might mean. 

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What if they aren't what they seem? As disclosure--and maybe even open contact--draws closer, what if we don't know what we're dealing with...at all?

In this deeply provocative conversation, Charles Upton joins Whitley Strieber to explore a radically different interpretation of the phenomenon: What if the beings behind UFO encounters are not extraterrestrial visitors at all, but something far more strange and dangerous in ways we can hardly imagine?

Upton argues that modern “disclosure” may itself be a carefully managed narrative—one designed to conceal a far more unsettling truth involving hidden alliances, occult traditions, and the manipulation of belief. From ancient accounts of materializing entities to the strange convergence of ritual magic and advanced technology, this conversation ventures into territory rarely discussed in public.

Is the UFO mystery a technological puzzle—or a spiritual one?

And if these entities can manifest physically, influence human affairs, and even shape our understanding of reality… what exactly are we dealing with?

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Tomorrow (Saturday, April 27, 2026 ) in the subscriber video room experiencer  Lucinda Morel joins Whitley Strieber for a provocative Q&A. How does her Native American ancestry figure in her experiences? Why was her father kidnapped by a witch? What was most of her family assassinated in Spain all those years ago? Let's dig into the mystery of Lucinda Morel! Subscribers, click here to join. ( The room opens at 9:55AM Pacific Time (12:55 AM Eastern) 

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The remarkable story of experiencer Lucinda starts in 15th-century Spain, when almost her entire family was murdered by unknown persons for unknown reasons. Fast forward to modern times, and her father is first kidnapped by the town witch, then becomes an abductee. Now, this high-level corporate executive is involved, too. 

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This week on Dreamland, we speak with Christopher Robinson, known as the “Dream Detective,” a man who has spent decades studying precognitive dreams — including his own. Robinson had a precognitive dream of the Lockerbie bombing so clear that he came under police suspicion. Listen as he tells the agonizing story of what it is like to have clear precogs but be helpless to prevent the disasters that follow. This powerful, heart-rending show goes down into the very depths of what it means to see the future. Deep humanity, deep mystery. 

This is a very eerie show, especially toward the end. Listen carefully!

Visit Christopher at The Premonition Man. Get his book here.

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