Dreamland

What if they aren't what they seem? As disclosure--and maybe even open contact--draws closer, what if we don't know what we're dealing with...at all?

In this deeply provocative conversation, Charles Upton joins Whitley Strieber to explore a radically different interpretation of the phenomenon: What if the beings behind UFO encounters are not extraterrestrial visitors at all, but something far more strange and dangerous in ways we can hardly imagine?

Upton argues that modern “disclosure” may itself be a carefully managed narrative—one designed to conceal a far more unsettling truth involving hidden alliances, occult traditions, and the manipulation of belief. From ancient accounts of materializing entities to the strange convergence of ritual magic and advanced technology, this conversation ventures into territory rarely discussed in public.

Is the UFO mystery a technological puzzle—or a spiritual one?

And if these entities can manifest physically, influence human affairs, and even shape our understanding of reality… what exactly are we dealing with?

To read the Art of Deception mentioned in the show, click here.

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Tomorrow (Saturday, April 27, 2026 ) in the subscriber video room experiencer  Lucinda Morel joins Whitley Strieber for a provocative Q&A. How does her Native American ancestry figure in her experiences? Why was her father kidnapped by a witch? What was most of her family assassinated in Spain all those years ago? Let's dig into the mystery of Lucinda Morel! Subscribers, click here to join. ( The room opens at 9:55AM Pacific Time (12:55 AM Eastern) 

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The remarkable story of experiencer Lucinda starts in 15th-century Spain, when almost her entire family was murdered by unknown persons for unknown reasons. Fast forward to modern times, and her father is first kidnapped by the town witch, then becomes an abductee. Now, this high-level corporate executive is involved, too. 

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This week on Dreamland, we speak with Christopher Robinson, known as the “Dream Detective,” a man who has spent decades studying precognitive dreams — including his own. Robinson had a precognitive dream of the Lockerbie bombing so clear that he came under police suspicion. Listen as he tells the agonizing story of what it is like to have clear precogs but be helpless to prevent the disasters that follow. This powerful, heart-rending show goes down into the very depths of what it means to see the future. Deep humanity, deep mystery. 

This is a very eerie show, especially toward the end. Listen carefully!

Visit Christopher at The Premonition Man. Get his book here.

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A child in an ancient castle is terrified by seeing blood on the floor from a long-ago murder. Next, she experiences a lifetime of psychic events. And then the shocking appearance of a sacred presence: The Lady--and she spends years with the Lady in her life.

In this unforgettable Dreamland episode, Whitley Strieber speaks with Amanda, whose experiences with a sacred feminine apparition span decades—from the terrifying psychic awakening at age five to a profound encounter at Montségur, in the Cathar country of Southern France.

What emerges is not just a story—but a call. A call to rediscover the sacred feminine, the deeper self, and the hidden dimensions of human experience.

Is The Lady a Marian presence? A manifestation of the divine feminine? Or something even more mysterious?

This is not an ordinary conversation. It is an initiation.

Happy Easter

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Dreamland guest host James Faulk interviews Ryan Kralik about his book, "It From Us: An Information-first Framework and the Purpose of Consciousness," and how his cosmic framework accommodates anomalous experiences throughout history.

Kralik argues that information lies at the root of reality rather than matter or energy. Kralik shares his personal journey into remote viewing, beginning with a surprising experiment with his wife that produced accurate descriptions of a hidden marble, leading him to further explore the phenomenon and develop a framework that explains UAPs, telepathy, near-death experiences, and other anomalous phenomena.

He describes how his information-first approach could reconcile both materialist and idealist perspectives, viewing coherence as the fundamental constraint driving physical reality, and theorizes how UAPs might operate as consciousness and intent amplifiers rather than conventional spacecraft using known physics. Faulk and Kralik also explore the limitations of AI, whether it will ever achieve true consciousness, and the potential for collective human cognition to affect reality.

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