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Erwan LeCorre is the founder of MovNat and BreathHoldWork, he has set the US national record in breath-holding 3 times.
We all know breathwork is important.
But have you ever considered that learning to *hold* your breath could be one of the most powerful tools for health, longevity, and inner peace?
In this episode, I sit down with Erwan Le Corre—one of the original pioneers of the outdoor fitness movement and founder of MovNat. Erwan was biohacking before it had a name, combining natural movement, cold exposure, fasting, and breathwork into a lifestyle decades before they were recognized in the mainstream.
He has now founded a new company, BreathHoldWork, teaching the technique he has used to set the US national record in breath-holding 3 times.
But this conversation isn't about the science (though we touch on it). It's about something deeper.
Erwan shares why relaxation is a skill, not a state you stumble into. Why holding your breath isn't just a party trick—it's a meditation that trains your nervous system to stay calm under stress. And why the real work of health isn't adding more supplements or gadgets, but learning to discriminate between what nourishes you and what drains you.
This episode will shift how you think about movement, breathwork, and what it means to live a truly embodied, spiritual life.
Here's what we cover:
Why modern fitness has forgotten the full scope of natural human movement—and what we lost when we moved indoors
The connection between mitochondrial health, energy, and the way we move our bodies every day
How breath-holding works: the physiology, the mindset shift, and why Erwan can hold his breath for over 8 minutes (yes, really)
Why learning to calm your nervous system during a breath hold teaches you how to stay grounded when life gets stressful
The spiritual side of breathwork—and why this practice is about much more than lung capacity
How to start cleaning up the "junk" in your life: junk food, junk entertainment, junk thoughts, and even junk people
Why deeply satisfying activities are almost always the healthiest ones
The role of self-examination and self-ministering in creating a life you actually want to live

Timestamps
00:00 The Breath-Hold Mindset
01:04 Meet Erwan Le Corre
03:55 The Origins of MovNat
04:41 Natural Movement Skills
07:04 Rethinking the Fitness Industry
09:23 Technique Before Fitness
10:49 Movement as a Health Input
14:24 Movement, Energy, and Lifestyle
20:11 Discernment and Better Choices
33:21 Cutting the Junk
37:54 MovNat and Early Biohacking
44:11 Intuition vs Data
47:36 Consciousness and Modern Life
51:35 Breathwork Foundations
54:21 The Eight-Minute Breath Hold
56:04 Breath-Hold Records and Oxygen
58:00 Mindset vs Physiology
01:00:57 Benefits of Breath-Hold Training
01:05:49 Breathing Rate and Longevity
01:10:18 Staying Calm Under Pressure
01:11:18 Training the Body and Soul
01:20:23 Meditation and Self-Work
01:25:43 The Breath Forward Method
01:31:07 Grace and Gratitude
01:41:36 Prayer and Nourishing the Soul
01:44:28 Erwan Le Corre and MovNat Training
01:45:50 Final Thanks and Outro

Connect with Erwan Le Corre
Natural Movement Training: movnat.com
Breath Hold Work: https://www.breathholdwork.com/
IG / X: @erwanlecorre
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Beauty gets treated like dessert. Nice if you have time, a little indulgent, maybe a little shallow. Mahwish Syed sees it as closer to oxygen. When the body is in alignment, beauty is the byproduct. And the environment you live in every day is either feeding that alignment or quietly working against it.
Mahwish learned this in the hardest way possible. During cancer treatment, with no hair, no eyebrows, and bone pain, she got dressed every day, put on lipstick, set the table with her best dishes and fresh flowers, and walked her son to school. She called them rituals of reverence. She later found the science behind what she'd been doing by instinct: beauty moves the nervous system toward the parasympathetic state, where the body can rest and repair. She turned her illness into what she calls a love affair, and today she says she looks better than she did in her 30s.
In this episode, Meredith and Mahwish walk room by room through a home built for your biology: light that follows the arc of the sun, art that lands your eye on nature, color that knows when to soothe and when to stimulate, and scent you grow yourself. Somewhere along the way, Meredith realizes they aren't only talking about beauty. They're talking about agency.
In this episode:
Why Mahwish defines beauty as alignment you feel, not an object you acquire, and how neuroaesthetics connects beauty to the nervous system through all five senses
How she turned cancer treatment into daily rituals of beauty, and why her mother's advice (wash your face, put your makeup on, go for a walk) held up
Beauty that includes darkness: grief, anger, and the corner of your home where you can go cry
Lighting that mimics the sun: morning light outside, lamps and sconces at eye level in the evening, overhead lights for tasks only
The hidden flicker problem: an LED bulb paired with an incompatible dimmer can flicker without you seeing it, and what to ask your electrician
Why art showing nature affects your biology differently than abstract art, and Meredith's own shift from modern art to a pastoral print in an antique store
The case for an art gallery in your kitchen, the room where alchemy happens
Soothing colors (greens and blues) versus stimulating colors (reds, oranges, yellows), and why every room needs a touch of black to ground it
Low-commitment color: pillows, a favorite scarf from your closet, a wild wallpaper inside the coat closet, a funky powder room
Meredith's curtain story, and what a neglected home can say about your internal state
Chaos versus clutter: why evidence of your creative life belongs out in the open
Pleasure as a biological need, not a reward you earn after being productive
Growing scent at home: jasmine, fragrant orchids, rosemary, mint, basil, and simmering orange peels and spices on the stove
The scents you can't smell: VOCs from synthetic rugs, glues, and MDF, and why to skip synthetic air fresheners
An assignment for Meredith and for you: put a piece of art somewhere unexpected and share a photo

Timestamps
00:00 Morning Light Rituals
00:46 Beauty as a Biological Need
02:34 Neuroaesthetics Explained
03:35 Cancer and Beauty as a Healing Practice
04:42 Redefining Beauty Beyond Cosmetics
08:14 Designing for Balance
13:40 How Your Environment Signals Your Body
16:39 Biophilia and Natural Materials
17:49 Circadian Lighting at Home
19:20 LED Flicker and Dimmer Problems
23:37 Art, Nature, and Healing Spaces
29:22 Color Psychology and Play
32:05 Beauty as a Daily Practice
35:15 Beauty, Ritual, and Your Inner Goddess
36:27 Acting Before You Have Perfect Information
37:23 Beauty as Agency
38:53 Neuroaesthetics at Home
41:40 Connection and Creative Chaos
44:17 Color Psychology and Black Accents
47:41 Lighten Up and Take Action
53:09 Pleasure, Rest, and Productivity
59:07 Scent, Memory, and the Home
01:04:06 Synthetic Fragrances and VOCs
01:06:31 Beauty Is Oxygen
01:07:22 Final Thanks and Subscribe

Connect with Mahwish Syed
Instagram: @mahwish_syed_designs
LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/mahwish-syed-designs/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mahwishsyeddesigns

Resources Mentioned
Mahwish Syed Designs: https://www.msd-ny.com
Claim Your Paradise: https://www.claimyourparadise.com
Purgatory to Paradise by Mahwish Syed: https://www.msd-ny.com/book
Mahwish on QBC Pod Ep 023, Quantum Health Informed Homes That Heal Our Bodies and Souls: https://quantumbiologycollective.substack.com/p/ep-023-quantum-health-informed-homes-fea
"The Guest House" by Rumi
The Birth of Venus by Sarah Dunant
The Secret of Secrets by Dan Brown (the RAC Thursday book club pick)
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To celebrate the 200th episode and the podcast reaching the top 1.5% globally, Meredith is leading a Live Player Activation, an invitation to stop operating from old scripts and strengthen your capacity to adapt, create and make genuinely new moves.
Inspired by social theorist Samo Burja’s concept of “live players,” Meredith explores eight traits of high-agency people and what they mean.
What this means for the Reverse Aging Club community: restoring your health and energy is not only about feeling better or preserving what you already have. It is about expanding what you are capable of doing next, even when that next chapter cannot be fully planned in advance.
We need all of you to be live players on the board, they are the ones who shape what’s next.
Meredith Oke is an executive coach, co-founder and Executive Director of the Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, and host of the Reverse Aging Club podcast. Her work explores how health, energy, mindset and relationships shape our capacity to create meaningful change at every age.
Timestamps
00:00 Live Player or Dead Player?
01:12 Celebrating Episode 200
02:29 Why Live Players Matter
04:09 Meet Samo Burja
06:09 What Is a Live Player?
08:41 The Dead Player Trap
11:14 Novelty With Discernment
12:14 The France Workshop Story
18:16 Trait #1: Making New Moves
19:28 Traits #2–4: Adaptability and Independence
22:01 Traits #5–6: Recognizing and Responding to Reality
23:11 Trait #7: Creating New Possibilities
25:42 Trait #8: Energy to Act
28:06 The 8 Live Player Traits

Resources Mentioned
PDF: How to be a Live Player - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hnJo-WyIi9MZtgGnyjwFCLsnCf-TIFlN/view?usp=sharing
Connect with The Reverse Aging Club:
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What if getting older doesn’t mean slowing down — but actually becoming more energetic, creative, and willing to take risks?
In this episode, Meredith is joined by Lynn Hardy, host of The Aging Games, natural health educator, author, actress, and award-winning filmmaker. Lynn shares how her own health journey transformed her life, why she says she has more energy in her 50s than she did in her 20s, and how improving her health gave her the capacity to pursue entirely new dreams.
We talk about fasting and meal timing, circadian health, morning and evening light, strength training, walking, grounding, lymphatic support, hydration, mindset, and some of the energy-based tools Lynn uses in her own routine. We also explore why knowing the “ideal” doesn’t mean doing everything perfectly — and why small changes can build momentum toward a much bigger life.
Then we move beyond health into creativity and purpose. Lynn shares how she went from being terrified to put herself on camera to writing books, hosting a podcast, acting, and making The Last Sun, her first independent film, which has gone on to win dozens of awards.
We also talk about:
Why midlife can feel like a second youth
The connection between energy and possibility
Eating earlier versus simply shortening your eating window
Getting past the fear of being visible
Why you don’t need permission to start something new
Gratitude, mindset, and reframing obstacles
Curating your social media to expand what you believe is possible
Why it is never too late to begin again

Timestamps
00:00 You’re Never Too Old
00:30 Meet Lynn Hardy
03:39 The Pandemic Pivot
06:39 Overcoming the Fear of Visibility
08:13 Why Authenticity Wins
10:33 The Reverse Aging Mindset
13:12 Finding Your Second Youth
16:09 Healthy Aging Foundations
18:26 OMAD and Fasting Explained
24:20 Circadian Meal Timing
30:03 Flexibility, Diet, and Treats
32:30 Lymphatic Drainage and Detox Tools
35:20 Light, Frequency, and Healing
36:53 Rethinking Hydration
38:07 Minerals and Better Hydration
39:22 How the Body Creates Metabolic Water
41:17 Grounding and Biomagnetism
42:58 Reverse Aging Foundations
43:52 From Sick to Thriving
46:11 Diet Experiments and Lessons
48:19 Rediscovering Ancestral Health Wisdom
50:12 Sun Exposure and the “Solar Callus”
51:39 The Last Sun Documentary
56:32 Creating From the Heart
01:01:31 Prayer, Gratitude, and Mindset
01:07:20 LifeWave Patches and Repair Signaling
01:10:31 Final Takeaways and Outro

Lynn’s message is simple: support your energy, stop letting your age define what you’re capable of, and go do the things you still want to do.
Connect with The Reverse Aging Club:
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Your body runs on light. That's the premise David Schmidt has spent 40 years building on, and in this episode he makes the case for why light, not drugs or gene therapy, is the real master control system for how we age.
David's path here started far from anti-aging research. He spent years designing power systems for the US Navy, including for a mini-submarine program crewed by Navy SEALs. When he learned the SEALs were relying on stimulants to survive long missions, he set out to find a natural alternative. That question led to the first LifeWave phototherapy patch, powered by nothing but body heat.
From there, the conversation covers where age reversal science actually stands right now, why David is optimistic about some approaches and cautious about others, and a genuinely surprising exercise protocol built around a minimum effective dose. Two 20-second sprints a week for cardio. One minute of resistance training, four days a week. That's it.
The back half of the conversation gets into David's water technology, and how a deep dive into lobster blood led to the specific wavelengths of light used to encode it. It sounds unlikely. It isn't.
This one will change how you think about what your body actually needs.
Timestamps
00:00 The Divine Light Ratio
00:37 Meet David Schmidt
01:04 Light, Water, and Phototherapy Patches
02:50 Biblical Longevity and Human Lifespan
06:15 How Phototherapy Patches Work
12:40 The Mountaineering Patch Story
13:48 COVID and Alternative Health
16:27 The Rise of Age-Reversal Science
23:57 Biological Age Testing
29:37 Biomimetic Light and Phototherapy Safety
31:51 Regeneration and 3D Organs
35:49 Longevity and the Future of Human Health
37:03 The Quantum Biology “Tricorder”
39:52 VO₂ Max and Minimal-Dose Cardio
44:42 Why Small Doses of Light Matter
45:47 X2O Water Explained
46:56 Trapping Light in Water
51:13 Early Research on Light-Infused Water
52:25 Beyond Structured Water
54:52 Lobster Blood and Light Wavelengths
01:00:13 Energy, Information, and Biology
01:01:52 X2O Water and Flow States
01:08:02 Light, Water, and Consciousness
01:11:47 Longevity, Hope, and Final Thoughts

Resources Mentioned
Lifewave: https://lifewave.com/qbcpodcast
Connect with The Reverse Aging Club:
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Institute of Applied Quantum Biology
RAC is a proud supporter of the non profit Institute of Applied Quantum Biology, a 501c3 dedicated to integrating quantum and circadian biology into health and wellness practice. Without ipublic support this science will take decades to become widely adopted.
Donate to launch JAQB: https://givebutter.com/AQBjournallaunch
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