That UFO Podcast

Is the White House trying to bypass the people keeping UFO secrets, and why are scientists still struggling to access the evidence?
Andy and Pavel discuss Ross Coulthart’s reporting on alleged UAP operations at White Sands, questions surrounding Jake Barber and Skywatcher, and Garry Nolan’s frustration that Dr. Phil sees UFO footage before the scientific advisory group does.
We also examine Jay Stratton’s latest comments about who holds the proof, what the government’s UAP releases are actually delivering, and whether disclosure can progress without waiting for Washington.
Plus, a discussion about secrecy, belief and the influence of alleged secret societies within the UFO community.
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I’m joined by journalist Ben Schreckinger to discuss his reporting on the escalating dispute between Jay Stratton and Sean Kirkpatrick.
After Stratton alleged that Kirkpatrick was compromised by a secret UFO legacy programme, Ben contacted the former AARO director for a response. Kirkpatrick denied the allegation and fired back with accusations of national security violations. Ben explains the exchange, what remains unanswered and where his investigation goes next.
We also discuss covering Donald Trump’s rise for Politico, Trump’s approach to UFO disclosure, the challenges of investigating crash retrieval claims, and John Herrington’s changing account of his connection to Brent Friedman.
Plus, why Ben is taking a closer look at telepathy, and whether fresh media interest can deliver answers to an audience tired of promises.
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In a special midweek show, I’m joined by Pavel to dig into Jay Stratton’s new book, Out of the Shadows. Does it move the UFO conversation forward, or leave us with more claims than answers?
We discuss:
• Claims that Lockheed held 12 recovered non-human craft and that reverse engineering had succeeded.
• Accounts of recovered beings and the questions these stories leave unanswered.
• Stratton’s personal encounters and what he means by seeing non-human intelligence firsthand.
• His criticism of Sean Kirkpatrick and warnings about manufactured whistleblowers.
• Where his account fits alongside David Grusch and Lue Elizondo, including questions over AATIP’s history.
We also look at Stratton’s television interviews, the divided reaction to the book, and why distinguishing personal experience, professional knowledge and secondhand accounts matters.
What deserves serious follow-up, what needs evidence, and what should Stratton be asked next?
Contains spoilers for Out of the Shadows.
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I review Jay Stratton’s Out of the Shadows, exploring the former UAP Task Force director’s biggest claims, personal experiences and the questions his account leaves open.
From Hal Puthoff’s foreword and allegations of recovered craft to Skinwalker Ranch, Holloman and the roles of Elizondo and Grusch, I look at what the book adds to the UFO conversation and where more evidence is needed.
I also discuss why Stratton’s seniority matters, the familiar stories he challenges, and your questions and reactions.
Full spoilers throughout.
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Andy is joined by Pavel to discuss claims of a UFO arms race, US–China technological competition and the questions surrounding mysterious drone incursions.
We unpack Eric Weinstein’s comments on Diary of a CEO, revisit the fallout from David Grusch’s Rogan appearance and examine excerpts from Jay Stratton’s Out of the Shadows, including reported military UAP encounters and a warning about investigating the legacy programme.
Plus, listener questions on reverse engineering, alleged alien abductions and what would genuinely move the disclosure conversation forward.
Recorded live on 12 October, ahead of Stratton’s book release.
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