Digital HR Leaders with David Green

Do you know which of your people are wired to thrive in chaos, and which ones need certainty to do their best work?
In this episode, David is joined by Mike Flannagan, Corporate Vice President, Customer & Commercial Success at Microsoft, and Paul Burgess, founder of Instinctive Drives, to explore Microsoft's recent partnership with Instinctive Drives and what it reveals about the human side of AI transformation. Together they unpack why the biggest barrier to AI adoption isn't the technology itself, but the mismatch between people's natural instincts and the roles they're being asked to play.
Join the dynamic trio as they discuss:

Why AI adoption is a people transformation
How the Instinctive Drives framework explains why people react so differently to change
What happens when the wrong people get pushed into high-experimentation, high-failure roles
Why psychological safety is the real prerequisite for AI adoption at scale
How a shared language around instincts can rebuild trust and speed up team performance

Listeners can try their own Instinctive Drives assessment for free for a limited time (expires 31st of October 2026) - the link is in the show notes below.

This episode is sponsored by Instinctive Drives.
As organisations invest heavily in AI, the people expected to deliver are often overwhelmed and working against their own natural wiring. Instinctive Drives' science-backed methodology reveals how each person is wired to work - which is why Microsoft chose them as their strategic partner for enterprise AI adoption worldwide.
Try your own Instinctive Drives assessment for free at instinctivedrives.com/digitalhrleaders - available until 31 October 2026.

Resources:
Instinctive Drives assessment - available until 31 October 2026
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Do you know which of your people are wired to thrive in chaos, and which ones need certainty to do their best work?

In this episode, David is joined by Mike Flannagan, Corporate Vice President, Customer & Commercial Success at Microsoft, and Paul Burgess, founder of Instinctive Drives, to explore Microsoft's recent partnership with Instinctive Drives and what it reveals about the human side of AI transformation. Together they unpack why the biggest barrier to AI adoption isn't the technology itself, but the mismatch between people's natural instincts and the roles they're being asked to play.

Join the dynamic trio as they discuss:

Why AI adoption is a people transformation
How the Instinctive Drives framework explains why people react so differently to change
What happens when the wrong people get pushed into high-experimentation, high-failure roles
Why psychological safety is the real prerequisite for AI adoption at scale
How a shared language around instincts can rebuild trust and speed up team performance

Listeners can try their own Instinctive Drives assessment for free for a limited time (expires 31st of October 2026) - the link is in the show notes below.
This episode is sponsored by Instinctive Drives.

As organisations invest heavily in AI, the people expected to deliver are often overwhelmed and working against their own natural wiring. Instinctive Drives' science-backed methodology reveals how each person is wired to work — which is why Microsoft chose them as their strategic partner for enterprise AI adoption worldwide.

Try your own Instinctive Drives assessment for free at instinctivedrives.com/digitalhrleaders - available until 31 October 2026.

Resources:

Instinctive Drives assessment - available until 31 October 2026
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How do you bring AI into an organisation without losing what's made it work for 150 years?

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Eric Dozier, Executive Vice President and Chief People Officer at Eli Lilly, to explore what it takes for HR to lead AI and workforce transformation at enterprise scale.

Join them, as they discuss:

Why HR has to transform twice over in the AI era, first as a function, then as an organisation
What prompted Lilly's AI journey, and how the friction points that came up shaped the approach going forward
How the role of the manager is changing as AI becomes part of everyday work
What separates AI capability from simply increased AI usage
The principles guiding Lilly's approach to responsible AI, including where it supports leadership judgement and where it shouldn't
How employee feedback has reshaped Lilly's AI strategy, and what Eric believes HR leaders should prioritise as they lead their own transformations

This episode is sponsored by Valence.

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before.

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.

Learn more at valence.co/insight222
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What if the resistance you're seeing from your team isn't opposition at all?

David Green is joined by Travis Hahler, who leads global strategy and transformation at Salesforce and is also the founder of Neurological Nomad, where he applies neuroscience and neuropsychology to how leaders manage change. Travis is the author of the new book Rethink Resistance, and his central argument reframes almost everything: resistance isn't personal, it's protective.

Why resistance to change should be read as information, not opposition:

The six neurological barriers to change, and why leaders need to understand each one
How routine and old habits quietly pull people back toward what made them successful before, even when they're not against the future
Why cognitive load and pacing determine whether people actually learn through a transformation, or just survive it
What employees are really losing in change that's genuinely good for them, and why leaders often miss it
How to apply these insights practically to workforce transformation and AI adoption

Whether you're leading a transformation right now or preparing for one, this conversation will change how you think about the resistance you're seeing.

This episode is sponsored by Valence.

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before.

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.

Learn more at valence.co/insight222

Additional resources:
Rethink Resistance: Embracing Neuroscience to Lead Transformational Change
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Is your HR function organised the way employees actually experience it, or just the way it's always been done?

In this episode of the Digital HR Leaders podcast, David Green is joined by Tony Truong, VP of People Strategy, Operations, Technology and Analytics at Chime, to unpack why most HR functions are still organised in silos, by specialty, while employees experience work as a series of moments: getting hired, being onboarded, going for a promotion. Tony has spent the last two years closing that gap, rebuilding Chime's people function from the ground up as the company has scaled into a public company.

In this episode, David and Tony discuss:

Why the real limitation holding HR back is fragmentation, not ambition
What it's taken to rebuild a people function from the ground up at a newly public company
How AI has reshaped recruiting at Chime, cutting a process that used to take days down to hours
Tony's three-stage framework for thinking about AI's role in the business: assistance, automation, and orchestration
What it actually looks like to move people analytics from the periphery of HR to the centre of how a business makes decisions

This episode is sponsored by Valence.

Nadia, Valence's AI coaching platform, connects talent strategy to the work employees are actually doing — offering coaching from the frontline to the boardroom, and surfacing organisational insights that weren't visible before.

As the most widely deployed coach in the Fortune 500, Nadia is already helping global leaders like Nestlé, Delta, CVS, and Kraft Heinz transform talent at scale.

Learn more at valence.co/insight222

Additional resources:
Deloitte Global Human Capital Trends 2026 Report
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