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• Uncle Bob Martin: Software Leader - Episode 357

  Robert C. Martin, more often known as Uncle Bob, has been programming since 1970 and has served as a mentor to generations of software engineers. He’s one of the original authors of the Agile Manifesto and played a foundational role in forming the Agile Alliance, where he served as its first chairman. But beyond titles and organizations, Bob’s lasting impact comes through his writing, his lectures, and his philosophy of software craftsmanship. He has spoken at conferences around the world — QCon, Agile 20XX, IT Days, and countless other industry gatherings — always advocating for clarity, discipline, and ethical responsibility in code. And if you’ve ever read Clean Code, The Clean Coder, or Clean Architecture, you know that he doesn’t just teach how to build systems — he challenges us to become better professionals in the process. His most recent work, Functional Design, continues this legacy, distilling decades of experience into patterns and principles that are just as relevant today as they were when he first put finger to keyboard.   Topics of Discussion: [2:22] Uncle Bob’s advice for young programmers entering the field: Be cautious with AI tools, learn fundamental programming skills, and understand that AI won’t replace programmers. [4:42] Get to the basics first, and then you can move on: Master core programming skills and fundamentals before relying too heavily on AI or advanced tools. [8:19] The impact of AI on experienced developers. [15:44] Highlighting the role of programmers in managing low-level details that managers and customers don’t want to think about. [18:43] Programmers as language learners. [27:19] The state of Agile methodologies. [29:33] The original Agile goal of making small teams work efficiently together, which remains a crucial challenge. [35:37] Discussing the limitations of university computer science programs and the potential of trade school or apprenticeship models. [36:07] What’s next for Uncle Bob?   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at [email protected]. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) Clean Agile: Back to Basics  Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship We, Programmers: A Chronicle of Coders from Ada to AI “Uncle Bob Martin: Clean Code and How to Do Software Well - Episode 283” Functional Design: Principles, Patterns, and Practices UncleBob on GitHub The Clean Code Blog Agile Principles, Patterns, Practices Clean Coders   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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• Jimmy Bogard: MediatR & AutoMapper - Episode 356

  Today’s guest is a true heavyweight in the .NET open-source world — someone whose work has quietly but profoundly shaped the way countless developers build software. Jimmy Bogard is the creator and maintainer of two of the most widely used OSS libraries in the .NET ecosystem: AutoMapper and MediatR. If you've ever tried to simplify object mapping or decouple application logic, chances are you've used his tools. Based in Austin, Texas, Jimmy is an independent software consultant and a perennial recipient of the Microsoft Most Valuable Professional award every single year since 2009. That’s more than a decade and a half of consistent, community-driven excellence. AutoMapper alone has been around for 17 years and has racked up hundreds of millions of downloads. It started as a personal tool to streamline development for client projects and grew into a global standard for object mapping.   Topics of Discussion: [3:15] What keeps Jimmy passionate about coding? [5:19] The decision to commercialize both libraries. [6:33] What dual licensing means in practice. [12:11] Which version of each library will include the license change? [16:26] Current major versions of AutoMapper (v14) and MediatR (v12). [17:28] MediatR: the problem it solves and how it structures code. [20:45] Organizing code by use case. [26:00] AutoMapper: what it is and why it helps. [33:28] API design strategy and tailoring endpoints to use cases. [37:25] OpenAPI vs asyncAPI for message-based systems. [41:49] Blazor WebAssembly and remote handlers.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at [email protected]. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) “Jimmy Bogard: .NET 7 and Azure Modernization - Episode 264” GitHub — Jimmy Bogard eShop GitHub — Jimmy Bogard GitHub — Automapper NuGet Gallery NuGet Gallery — MediatR Releases — J. Bogard Jimmy Bogard AutoMapper and MediatR Licensing Update   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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• Steve Smith: Software Architecture - Episode 355

  Steven Smith, also known in the developer community as Ardalis, is an entrepreneur, author, and software architect with a deep passion for building effective, maintainable software. Through his company, NimblePros, Steve helps organizations — ranging from household names like Microsoft and Quicken Loans to growing teams across industries — maximize their development potential. His clients frequently describe him as a “force multiplier,” amplifying the productivity and impact of the teams he supports.   Steve has been recognized as a Microsoft MVP for over two decades and continues to lead through education and mentorship. He’s published numerous courses on Pluralsight and Dometrain, focusing on topics like domain-driven design, software architecture, and design patterns. He also empowers developers through his mentorship platform, DevBetter.com, helping the next generation of professionals grow their careers with intention and clarity.   Topics of Discussion: [2:28] What keeps Steve excited about computer programming and software architecture? [4:42] What is software architecture? [6:18] The importance of understanding the logical components of a software system and how they interact. [7:06] Artifacts for architecture decisions. [8:52] How lightweight documentation and diagrams, like those in the C4 Model, can clarify system design without overburdening the team. [10:53] The modern architecture books that have caught Steve’s eye. [12:57] The KISS principle and keeping software architecture simple. [19:38] Clean architecture and domain-driven design principles. [22:52] Managing out-of-process dependencies and service integrations. [26:07] Adapter pattern and interface abstractions. [28:33] Decorator pattern for adding functionality. [33:14] Pipeline Architecture. [40:35] What Steve thinks the future holds for AI-driven development, what he uses it for, and the challenges of AI currently.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at [email protected]. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) “Steve Smith: .NET 8 and Architecture” - Episode 276 NimblePros  Architect Modern Web Applications with ASP.NET Core and Azure  C4 Model  “Simon Brown on Architecture for Developers - Episode 96” Fundamentals of Software Architecture, by Mark Richards & Neal Ford, summarized as a platform-agnostic, principle-driven guide   .NET Rocks! “Architecture vs. Code with Steve Smith”  .NET Rocks! “Vertical Slice Architecture with Jeremy Miller”  GoF Adapter pattern .NET API interface estimate  Decorator patternBus Vs. Pipeline patterns   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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• Bob Ward: SQL Server 2025 - Episode 354

  Bob Ward is a Principal Architect for the Microsoft Azure Data team, which owns the development for Microsoft SQL Edge to Cloud. Bob has worked for Microsoft for 31-plus years on every version of SQL Server shipped, from OS/2 1.1 to SQL Server 2025, including Azure SQL. Bob is a well-known speaker on SQL Server, Azure SQL, AI, and Microsoft Fabric, often presenting talks on new releases, internals, and specialized topics at events such as SQLBits, Microsoft Build, Microsoft Ignite, PASS Summit, DevIntersection, and VS Live. You can also learn Azure SQL from him on the popular series https://aka.ms/azuresql4beginners. You can follow him on X at @bobwardms or linkedin.com/in/bobwardms. Bob is the author of the books Pro SQL Server on Linux, SQL Server 2019 Revealed, Azure SQL Revealed with a 2nd edition, and SQL Server 2022 Revealed available from Apress Media.   Topics of Discussion: [1:38] Bob reflects on nearly 30 years at Microsoft, growing alongside SQL Server since 1993. [4:16] Transitioning from engineering to advocacy: why Bob now focuses on helping developers unlock the power of SQL Server. [6:12] Debunking myths about SQL Server — yes, it’s cloud-ready, developer-friendly, and supports containers and Linux. [10:15] Key tools and features for developers using SQL: containers, Bicep templates, SQLCMD, and DevOps pipelines. [16:23] SQL projects and source control: how modern database DevOps practices improve reliability and testing. [19:32] Common challenges in database development: fear of breaking production, limited test data, and cultural silos. [22:55] Bob’s perspective on responsible database change management and the importance of a good rollback plan. [26:02] The evolution of developer tooling in SQL Server, and how Microsoft is making the CLI and APIs first-class citizens. [30:47] Advice for new developers: SQL isn’t going anywhere, and it’s easier than ever to get started. [34:00] Resources and community support: Bob highlights docs, GitHub samples, training courses, and his book.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at [email protected]. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) Bob Ward: SQL Server - Episode 321 Bob Ward LinkedIn Bob Ward MBob Ward — Microsoft | LinkedInicrosoft Azure SQL Revealed: The Next-Generation Cloud Database with AI and Microsoft Fabric   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.  

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• Michael Washington: The Nature Of Data - Episode 353

  Michael is an ASP.NET and C# programmer who has extensive knowledge in process improvement, AI and Large Language Models, and student information systems. He is also the founder of the following websites, BlazorData.net, AIStoryBuilders.com, and BlazorHelpWebsite.com — fantastic resources that help empower developers. Michael resides in Los Angeles, California, with his son Zachary and wife, Valerie.   Topics of Discussion: [2:09] Michael shares his background, starting with his first applications created for his uncle’s company using Access 2.0. [3:08] Michael mentions his new project, Personal Data Warehouse, which is an open-source, free tool for managing data. [5:20] He explains the inspiration behind the Personal Data Warehouse, focusing on the importance of data for making human decisions. [7:48] Michael’s finding: the reason we collect data is so that a human being can use that data to make decisions. [9:42] The three phases of data: collection, transformation, and reporting, and the significance of the transformation phase, where data is processed to make it useful for decision-making. [12:45] Data warehousing techniques and tools, and the use of Parquet files. [13:14] Michael talks about the use of SQL Server Reporting Services for generating reports, which can be accessed through the application. He encourages developers to explore the Personal Data Warehouse and its open-source code on GitHub. [22:33] Scenarios and use cases for Personal Data Warehouse. [32:09] AI and Language Models in Data Management. [36:17] The need to be responsible with AI and not use it to harm people. [37:07] Michael shares his experience with various AI tools, including CoPilot, OpenAI, and Google Notebooks.   Mentioned in this Episode: Clear Measure Way Architect Forum Software Engineer Forum Programming with Palermo — New Video Podcast! Email us at [email protected]. Clear Measure, Inc. (Sponsor) .NET DevOps for Azure: A Developer’s Guide to DevOps Architecture the Right Way, by Jeffrey Palermo Ep 286 with Michael Washington [email protected] AI Snake Oil AIStoryBuilders Blazor — Blogs Blazor Help Website BlazorData-Net / PersonalDataWarehouse GitHub Copilot Google NotebooksLM   Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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