Decoding the Gurus

We return to some old friends, and almost immediately, we regret the decision. Also, get ready for some heady insights from history, a new conspiracy hypothesis, and Game Theory based insights.
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Supplementary Material 45
00:00 Introduction
01:15 Mick Drop
04:44 Scott Galloway's Favourite Conservative
06:37 Konstantin Kisin: Neither Right Nor Left
11:51 Insane Ad Reads in Podcastistan
17:08 Aella's insights on history
20:30 Bret's New Conspiracy Episode
22:10 Bret on Epstein, Pizzagate, and Ritual Murder
30:58 Heather, the personification of strategic disclaimers
31:49 Bret's New Conspiracy: Epstein is Alive
36:31 The Real Culprit is Game Theory
44:25 Bret is a Force of Nature who is always vindicated
46:36 The Grand Unification of Conspiracy Theories
48:25 Cenk Uygur promotes 9/11 Conspiracies
51:42 Peter Thiel in Ghoulish Pro-Nazi Form
55:15 The Descent of the Discourse
57:47 Eric visits Triggernometry (Again): Russian Woes
01:05:20 The Eric Squid Ink Manoeuvre
01:14:49 Eric is pro-Nuclear weapons tests
01:19:27 Weinstein drives can take us multiplanetary
01:28:28 The Weinstein Function: Justifying Enlightened Centrists Everywhere
01:30:37 Drew Pavlou's latest stunt backfires
Sources
Is Epstein Alive? The 313th Evolutionary Lens (Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying podcast episode)
DarkHorse clip discussing the Epstein theory (YouTube)
Aella’s history insights thread
Aella’s large thread about homeschooling
Interview where Aella discusses the perceived benefits of homeschooling
Bret Weinstein responding to critics saying he has lost his mind
Bret Weinstein linking Epstein and COVID conspiracies
Cenk Uygur promoting 9/11 conspiracy claims
Cenk Uygur criticising media responses to his conspiracy theories
Peter Thiel comments invoking Weimar-era parallels
Drew Pavlou’s stunt backfires

Ever heard of cognitive dissonance? That thing a psychology lecturer might have explained to you once upon a time, likely using the same UFO cult example everyone else uses. Well, a new paper by Thomas Kelly suggests that the UFO cult example might have been ever so slightly oversold.
Kelly's archival work suggests that the researchers didn't just observe the cult as reported. Instead, they infiltrated it, faked supernatural experiences, assumed quasi-leadership roles, and then wrote up the results as if the group had spontaneously doubled down on their failed prophecy, which they had not. Because the leader recanted, and the group fell apart shortly after the failed prophecy. Minor details.
Matt and Chris discuss this paper, a 2024 multilab replication, and some other papers by Kelly, considering the ever-reliable tendency of researchers to find exactly what they are looking for.
It's cognitive dissonance all the way down, folks.
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Decoding Academia 34: When Prophecy Fails Debunked?
00:00 Introduction
02:04 Cognitive Dissonance Theory
06:41 Classic lab evidence: effort justification & the ‘severe initiation’ study
08:33 When Prophecy Fails: The Original Account
10:54 The debunking: archival evidence, misconduct claims, and ethical red flags
20:22 Replication reality check: multi-lab results and ‘strong vs weak’ dissonance
31:40 Beyond one case: survivorship bias, failed prophecies, and early Christianity parallels
35:51 Christianity as Historical Anomaly or Cognitive Dissonance Exemplar?
41:48 Thomas Kelly: Interesting biosafety takes and a possible Christian lens
45:43 The importance of seeking for disconfirming evidence
50:23 Conspiracy-theory dynamics & narrative elaboration
56:30 Classical Psychological Theories and Personal Motivations
01:03:07 Steps that can be taken to reduce biases
01:05:01 Stay tentative, check evidence, and don’t pick sides too fast
01:06:30 A lesson from Scott Alexander!
Sources
Academic Papers and Books
Festinger, L. (1957). A theory of cognitive dissonance. Stanford University Press.
Festinger, L., Riecken, H. W., & Schachter, S. (1956). When prophecy fails. University of Minnesota Press.
Festinger, L., & Carlsmith, J. M. (1959). Cognitive consequences of forced compliance. The Journal of Abnormal and Social Psychology, 58(2), 203–210. https://doi.org/10.1037/h0041593 (The original induced-compliance/$1/$20 study)
Kelly, T. (2026). Debunking "When Prophecy Fails." Journal of the History of the Behavioral Sciences, 62(1), e70043. https://doi.org/10.1002/jhbs.70043
Kelly, T. (2025). Failed prophecies are fatal. International Journal for the Study of New Religions, 14(1), 48–71. https://doi.org/10.1558/ijsnr.33085
Aronson, E., & Mills, J. (1959). The effect of severity of initiation on...

Cult Season rumbles on as Chris and Matt expand their minds in an attempt to absorb the cosmic insights of spiritual influencer and alleged cult leader Teal Swan (born Mary Teal Bosworth, 1984). Our intrepid hosts explore her recent appearance on the Just Tap In podcast with Emilio “starchild” Ortiz — a beanie-wearing vessel of pure credulity, lobbing softball metaphysical questions gently into the astral winds.
The topic covered is ostensibly “Major 2026 Predictions” but this is really just an entry point for discussion of the ancient origins of AI, multiversal astral contract negotiations, and, of course, the urgent need to discuss masculinity before we spiritually implode.
You will learn insights, such as: how AI will eliminate ageing, guide us to SOURCE, amplify our shadow, and corrupt and deceive us ... all at once. Aliens and other cosmic beings are deeply concerned with and also not really all that bothered with humanity. Also, pop stars are apparently set to receive divine instructions to stabilise the collective psyche in 2026. And how we are all trapped in a planetary pressure cooker that will run at least until 2030. Teal is trying not to scare us, but it doesn’t look great (though it might also be great and lead to utopia).
Expect astral board meetings, sensemaking redefinitions of “power” and “love”, warnings about the painful sacrifices required to join Teal’s “conscious community”, and some distinctly uncomfortable talk about opening gates and reframing mother–son dynamics. As ever, Matt and Chris attempt to decode the elevated vagueness, semantic gliding, and cosmic scaling of very earthly anxieties.
All hail SOURCE!
Decoding Content
Just Tap In Podcast #260: "Teal Swan – Why 2026 Is a Psychological & Relational Tipping Point for Humanity"

Links
The Gateway (Gizmodo Podcast, 2018) - Six-part investigative series by Jennings Brown
The Deep End (Freeform/Hulu, 2022) - Four-part docuseries by Jon Kasbe
Mormon Stories #1607: Growing Up with Teal Swan - Diana Hansen Ribera - Interview with Teal's childhood best friend
Mormon Stories #1328-1331: Leaving Mormonism to Join Teal Swan's Cult - Jared Dobson
BBC- Teal Swan: The woman encouraging her followers to visualise death
Scam Goddess: The Culty Con of Teal Swan w/ Sarah Marshall

In this Decoding Academia episode, we take a look at a 2025 paper by Daria Ovsyannikova, Victoria Olden, and Mickey Inzlicht, asking a question that might make some people uncomfortable/angry, specifically, are AI-generated responses perceived as more empathetic than those written by actual humans?
We walk through the design in detail (including why this is a genuinely severe test), hand out deserved open-science brownie points, and discuss why AI seems to excel particularly when responding to negative or distress-laden prompts. Along the way, Chris reflects on his unsettlingly intense relationship with Google’s semi-sentient customer-service agent “Bubbles,” and we ask whether infinite patience, maximal effort, and zero social awkwardness might be doing most of the work here.
This is not a paper about replacing therapists, outsourcing friendship, or mass-producing compassion at scale. It is a careful demonstration that fluent, effortful, emotionally calibrated text is often enough to convince people they are being understood, which might explain some of the appeal of the Gurus.
Source
Ovsyannikova, D., de Mello, V. O., & Inzlicht, M. (2025). Third-party evaluators perceive AI as more compassionate than expert humans. Communications Psychology, 3(1), 4.
Decoding Academia 34: Empathetic AIs?
01:40 Introducing the Paper
10:29 Study Methodology
14:21 Chris's meaningful relationship with YouTube AI agent Bubbles
16:23 Open Science Brownie Points
17:50 Empathetic Prompt Engineering: Humans and AIs
21:17 Study 1 and 2
31:35 Study 3 and 4
37:00 Study Conclusions
42:27 Severe Hypothesis Testing
45:11 Seeking out Disconfirming Evidence
47:06 Why do AIs do better on negative prompts?
54:48 Final Thoughts

In this interview episode, we are joined by physicists Sam Gregson (Bad Boy of Science YouTube channel) and Tim Henke to examine the rise of science populism: a style of science communication that borrows the tactics of political populism, including grievance narratives, institutional distrust, and conspiratorial framing, while presenting its advocates as lone truth-tellers battling a corrupt academic elite.
We discuss how DTG favourites like Sabine Hossenfelder and Eric Weinstein, as well as fresh new faces Brian Keating and Avi Loeb, deploy selective truths about physics to fuel self-aggrandising, anti-expert narratives.
Along the way, we also cover stuff like why “physics hasn’t progressed in 50 years”, cranks are useful props for populist arguments, and the strange obsession with Nobel Prizes.
If you are interested in guru dynamics, science communication, and physics crankery, this might be an episode for you.
Links
Bad Boy of Science (Sam Gregson)
Tim's Profile Website
Bad Boy of Science – The Rise of Physics Populisers
Theories of Everything (Kurt Jaimungal)
Losing the Nobel Prize – Brian Keating
Into the Impossible (Brian Keating)
Sabine Hossenfelder’s YouTube Channel
The Portal (Eric Weinstein)
The Galileo Project (Avi Loeb)
Sean Carroll – Mindscape / Preposterous Universe
Not Even Wrong (Peter Woit)