For interior designer and art curator Natasha Landers, home is where the public and private worlds meet. Her Walthamstow house is a curated gallery, where Black art is not just displayed, but lives among her daily life.
Natasha grew up in a Hackney council house, sharing a bedroom with her brother in a home where space was tight, but imagination wasn’t.
From an early age, she found ways to express herself – decorating her bedroom and reworking her clothes.
She was the first in her family to go to university, leaving the noise of East London for the stillness of the Welsh valleys. The silence was unsettling. No traffic. No sirens. Just the realisation that home isn’t only about place – it’s about what your body recognises as safe.
Today, Natasha is a diversity consultant, working in boardrooms where she's often the only Black person in the room. Spaces where she’s learned to hold her ground – and gently challenge how others see the world.
Her home has become part of that work, and she opens it up as an exhibition space for Black artists.
She’s lived there for 26 years, shaping it slowly and conscientiously. A roll-top bath once sat in the living room for two years, waiting for the moment it could finally be installed.
It’s also a home that knows how to slow down.
After years of people-pleasing and burnout, Natasha has learned to honour rest – and to find pleasure in small, everyday rituals.
This is an episode about patience, knowing when to perform and when to stop, and how a home shaped over time can become a place where you’re finally allowed to just be.
The episode was recorded at Natasha’s home in Walthamstow.
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