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Research briefing with Brian Houck: Measuring AI agents and revisiting the Core 4
24/07/2026 | 46 minAI coding agents are changing how software gets built, but they're also forcing organizations to rethink how engineering effectiveness is measured. Traditional developer experience metrics were designed for humans, not AI agents, so how should engineering leaders adapt?
In this webinar, Justin Reock, Deputy CTO at DX, is joined by Brian Houck, Distinguished Scientist at DX and co-author of the SPACE framework, to explore the emerging field of agent experience and how it builds on developer experience rather than replacing it. They discuss how organizations can prepare for AI-assisted software development, how the DX Core 4 applies in the age of AI, why metrics like token usage and PR throughput don't tell the whole story, and the growing importance of documentation. They also examine the impact AI-driven pressure is having on burnout and cognitive overload.
Throughout the conversation, they share practical guidance for building engineering organizations where both developers and AI agents can do their best work.
Where to find Brian Houck:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianhouck
Where to find Justin Reock:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinreock
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Intro
(01:26) Justin’s new role at DX
(03:53) What agent experience is and why engineering leaders should care
(08:55) How to improve agent experience at the platform level
(11:25) How agent experience and developer experience influence each other
(14:41) Preparing engineering teams for agentic work
(21:38) Why the DX Core 4 still matters in the age of AI
(27:23) What PR throughput actually measures
(32:47) The limits of token metrics
(37:10) What the data shows about documentation and developer experience
(39:32) Improving documentation for AI agents
(40:43) AI-washing, burnout, and cognitive overload
(45:35) Brian's upcoming research on agent experience
Referenced:
• DX Core 4 Productivity Framework
• The SPACE of AI | Queue
• Sara Chizari on LinkedIn
• The Middle Loop - Annie Vella
• gastownhall/gastown: Gas Town - multi-agent workspace manager · GitHub
• DORA, SPACE, and DevEx: Which framework should you use?
• AI Impact Report: Q1 2026
• AI-authored code has nearly doubled, but so has PR size
• EngThrive: Make It Fast and Easy to Do Great Work: Building a durable model for outcome-oriented engineering measurement
• Google's Project Aristotle - Psychological Safety
• Zapier- Sejal Amin is the Chief Technology Officer at Priceline, where she leads product engineering, infrastructure, data, and technology operations. Pedro Gutierrez is Senior Director of Software Engineering, where he has helped drive developer experience initiatives and the adoption of Priceline's product operating model.
In this episode of the Engineering Enablement podcast, Justin Reock talks with Sejal and Pedro about Priceline's journey from a project-based organization to a product operating model and the role developer experience played in making that transformation successful. They discuss how DX metrics and developer feedback helped identify organizational bottlenecks, guide structural changes, empower engineering managers, and build trust across teams. They also explore the importance of clear communication, creating a dedicated developer experience team, and how their operating model has helped prepare Priceline for AI-driven software development.
Where to find Sejal Amin:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sejal-amin
Where to find Pedro Gutierrez:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pedro-gutierrez-b6605422
Where to find Justin Reock:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinreock
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Intro
(01:07) Meet Sejal Amin and Pedro Gutierrez
(01:47) How Priceline's developer experience journey began
(04:55) Lessons from Priceline's first developer experience surveys
(06:55) How DX improved Priceline's developer experience surveys
(09:47) Identifying the causes of organizational slowness
(12:33) How the product operating model changed the way Priceline works
(14:10) Priceline's phased rollout with DX
(18:14) How DX insights drove organizational changes
(19:33) Why Priceline improved developer experience before org change was complete
(22:18) How clear communication builds trust
(24:25) Early results from Priceline's Core Four
(25:38) Creating a culture of continuous feedback to build trust
(27:40) What has changed in the engineering manager role
(30:10) Resources for learning about the product operating model
(32:40) What Pedro learned from implementing DX
(34:51) The developer experience team
(35:59) How AI tools have impacted Priceline’s teams
(37:20) How the product operating model supports AI-driven development
(39:13) Final advice for engineering leaders
Referenced:
• Measuring developer productivity with the DX Core 4
• Transformed: Moving to the Product Operating Model (Silicon Valley Product Group)
• Team Topologies
• Flow Framework
• Project to Product: How to Survive and Thrive in the Age of Digital Disruption with the Flow Framework - In this closing panel from DX Annual, Rafe Colburn, Chief Product and Technology Officer at Etsy; Jesse Adametz, Senior Director of Engineering, Platform Engineering at Twilio; Eirini Kalliamvakou, Research Advisor at GitHub; Collin Green, Senior Staff UX Researcher at Google; and Brian Houck, Senior Principal Applied Scientist at Microsoft debate some of the biggest questions surrounding AI and engineering productivity.
They discuss whether AI will reduce the need for engineers, how AI is affecting technical debt, the future role of software engineers in an agentic world, and whether organizations should mandate AI adoption. They also explore how bottlenecks are shifting across the software development lifecycle, the challenges facing junior engineers, and why learning, culture, and change management may ultimately matter more than the tools themselves.
Where to find Rafe Colburn:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rafeco
• Blog: https://rafe.codes
Where to find Eirini Kalliamvakou:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eirini-kalliamvakou-1016865
• X: https://x.com/irina_kAl
Where to find Brian Houck:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianhouck
Where to find Jesse Adametz:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesseadametz
• X: https://x.com/jesseadametz
• Website: https://www.jesseadametz.com
Where to find Collin Green:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/collin-green-97720378
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Intro
(01:16) Why an AI-first SDLC doesn’t mean fewer engineers
(03:09) The debate over AI and technical debt
(07:40) AI-generated code and the future role of engineers
(14:16) Why mandating AI use doesn't necessarily lead to better outcomes
(20:43) Predictions for the future of junior engineers
(23:22) Where the bottlenecks are in the SDLC now
(28:25) How risk influences AI use
(32:38) Why the human side is the biggest AI adoption challenge
Referenced:
• Etsy
• GitHub
• Microsoft
• Twilio
• Google
• Stewart Reichling
• What is the SPACE framework and when should you use it? From PR throughput to product velocity: How Dropbox is rethinking productivity in the agentic era
29/06/2026 | 21 minIn this session from DX Annual, Uma Namasivayam, Senior Director of Engineering Productivity at Dropbox, shares how the company's developer productivity efforts evolved from improving developer experience to preparing for the agentic era.
He explains how Dropbox approached AI adoption across its engineering organization, the impact it had on developer productivity, and why faster code generation is creating new bottlenecks in areas such as code review, validation, and CI/CD. He also discusses Dropbox's efforts to rethink engineering systems, measurement, and workflows, including the development of agentic tooling and new metrics designed to move beyond PR throughput and toward product velocity.
Where to find Uma Namasivayam:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/unamasivay
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Intro
(00:57) The beginning of Dropbox’s DX journey
(02:34) AI adoption at Dropbox: what made it work
(04:46) The results of Dropbox's AI adoption efforts
(05:39) What the results mean for the business
(06:55) The phases of AI adoption and where they are now
(08:00) The new bottlenecks
(09:16) Three challenges Dropbox faces moving into agentic engineering
(10:05) How Dropbox is redesigning the SDLC for agentic engineering
(15:46) The new metrics that matter
(19:16) Final takeaways
Referenced:
• Dropbox
• Developer Experience Index (DXI) | DX
• DX Core 4 Productivity Framework
• Cursor
• Claude Code | Anthropic's agentic coding system
• JetBrains
• Visual Studio Code
• Jira | Project Management for the AI Era | Atlassian
• GitHub- Indeed increased AI coding tool adoption from roughly 25% to 97% across its engineering organization, but getting engineers to use the tools was only part of the challenge.
In this session from DX Annual, Michael Redding, Principal Product Manager, and Jeff Davis, VP of Core Infrastructure at Indeed, explain how the company used structured training, leadership support, and ongoing community engagement to help more than 2,000 engineers build practical AI skills. They share why an early train-the-trainer model fell short, how they redesigned their approach around hands-on learning, and what they learned about balancing adoption, measurement, and psychological safety.
They also discuss the impact of the program on coding time, the role of continuous enablement after formal training ended, and how Indeed is preparing for the next phase of AI adoption, including agentic workflows and AI-powered coaching.
Where to find Jeff Davis:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/utjeffd
Where to find Michael Redding:
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reddingsetgo
In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Intro
(01:05) Indeed's DX survey from January 2025
(02:30) The two-part strategy to double engineering productivity
(04:21) How Indeed increased AI adoption from 25% to 97%
(15:40) Results from Indeed's AI training program
(18:33) How Indeed sustains AI adoption and learning
(23:06) What's next for AI enablement at Indeed
(24:41) Q&A: How coding time was calculated
(25:25) Q&A: How Indeed uses AI playbooks
(26:40) Q&A: Balancing asynchronous and live AI training
(28:22) Q&A: Psychological safety during AI adoption
(31:44) Q&A: Why AI adoption spikes after the holidays
(33:20) Q&A: The metrics Indeed tracked
(35:22) Q&A: Where the time savings are going
(36:54) Q&A: Reaching engineers who skipped the training
(38:08) Closing thoughts
Referenced:
• Indeed
• Claude Code | Anthropic's agentic coding system
• Cursor
• Windsurf
• Amp Code
• The Complete Guide to Building Skills for Claude | Anthropic
• Measuring developer productivity with the DX Core 4
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