Software Unscripted

Casey Muratori talks with Richard about Casey's 2025 talk "The Big OOPs" about the history of Object-Oriented Programming, as well as performance, architecture, software quality, and plenty of other topics.

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- Casey's The Big OOPs Talk - https://youtu.be/wo84LFzx5nI?si=axXmxlBgJkzzE-uc
- Casey's Performance Aware Programming Course - https://www.computerenhance.com/i/99218768/performance-aware-programming-series
- Casey's Conway's Law Talk - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUj1EZwpJY
- Casey's "The Thirty Million Line Problem" Talk - https://youtu.be/kZRE7HIO3vk?si=vZSmEshgMmVZc2Qk
- Bjarne Stroustrup's Bell Labs Interview - https://youtu.be/69edOm889V4?si=fnTlTTIAEwRnwkq3
- Objective-C Creator Brad Cox interview - https://youtu.be/1xrL2d5omuA?si=1ncZJEzRmyQbyndh
- Richard's "Why isn't FP the Norm?" Talk - https://youtu.be/QyJZzq0v7Z4?si=f9oXRpi7oNbjhVDs
- Richard's "Why Static Typing Came Back" Talk - https://youtu.be/Tml94je2edk?si=by78GlVpNDakO6ys
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Richard talks with Datastar creator Delaney Gillilan about fast functional reactive programming, how Datastar outcompetes more mainstream JavaScript libraries on performance, and how he designed it - including how Richard's book Elm in Action turned out to be one of its sources of inspiration.

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- Datastar: https://data-star.dev
- Elm in Action: https://www.manning.com/books/elm-in-action?utm_source=elm_in_action&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=book_rfeldman_elm_4_14_20&utm_content=number2
- Delaney and ClojureScript Lead David Nolen on Datastar: https://youtu.be/2ECucq-mTGg?si=v_4sB7vIEEDGpjm6
- Datastar experience report: https://youtu.be/8W6Lr1hRgXo?si=TAJU_wRirCYiZywm
- Benchmarking the same chat app in Next.js and Datastar: https://zweiundeins.gmbh/en/methodology/spa-vs-hypermedia-real-world-performance-under-load
- Real-Time Collaboration with Datastar: https://vimeo.com/1124980036
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Richard talks with TigerBeetle founder Joran Greef about how their team's database achieved a wildly successful Jepsen Report. Where other databases have been famously skewered in the past, TigerBeetle passed with flying colors, and Richard and Joran discuss the story of how they got there, how TigerBeetle makes money when their database is open source, and many other topics around software quality in general.

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TigerBeetle's Jepsen Report - https://tigerbeetle.com/blog/2025-06-06-fuzzer-blind-spots-meet-jepsen/
MongoDB's 2020 Jepsen Report - https://jepsen.io/analyses/mongodb-4.2.6
Zig - https://ziglang.org/
TigerStyle software development methodology - https://tigerstyle.dev/
Deterministic Simulation Testing (DST) - https://antithesis.com/docs/resources/deterministic_simulation_testing/
Antithesis - https://antithesis.com/

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Richard talks with AI expert Shawn "swyx" Wang about all sorts of AI topics, including how it fits into IDEs, AI agent implementations, the economics of AI subscriptions, the future of AI in software, and how all of this affects software quality.

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Shawn's Latent Space Podcast - https://www.latent.space/podcast
AI Engineer Conference Series - https://www.ai.engineer/
RAG - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retriev...
Shawn's "WTF Happened in 2025?" site - https://wtfhappened2025.com/
Radiologist shortage - https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/hea... Intro – LLM psychosis & the Ilya Sutskever story

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HTMX creator and Montana State University instructor Carson Gross talks to Richard about why HTMX moved from version 2 straight to version 4, API boundaries in library design, jQuery, and how the field of Computer Science education is now changing from the perspective of someone who's been teaching it for years.

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- HTMX - https://htmx.org/
- Version 2 → Version 4 announcement https://htmx.org/essays/the-fetchening/
- Shoutout to other htmx contributors: https://github.com/bencroker https://github.com/benpate https://github.com/alexpetros https://github.com/Telroshan https://github.com/MichaelWest22
- Carson's hardware course - https://github.com/msu/csci-366-spring2025/blob/main/SYLLABUS.md
- Big Sky Dev Conf - https://bigskydevconf.com/
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