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• Daniel Rasmussen: ‘Be Very Wary of Illiquid Asset Classes’

  Hi, and welcome to The Long View. I’m Dan Lefkovitz, strategist for Morningstar Indexes. Our guest this week is Daniel Rasmussen. He’s the founder and portfolio manager of Verdad Advisers, a hedge fund. Before starting Verdad, Dan worked at Bain Capital Private Equity and Bridgewater Associates. He’s a member of the investment committee of the trustees of donations of the Episcopal Church and he’s a contributor to The Wall Street Journal. Dan is author of the new book, The Humble Investor: How to find a winning edge in a surprising world. His earlier book was American Uprising: The Untold Story of America’s Largest Slave Revolt. Dan holds a bachelor’s from Harvard and an MBA from Stanford. Dan, thanks so much for joining us on The Long View.BackgroundBioVerdadThe Humble Investor: How to find a winning edge in a surprising worldAmerican Uprising: The Untold Story of America’s Largest Slave RevoltForecasting“Waves in Ship Prices and Investment,” by Sam Hanson and Robin Greenwood, Quarterly Journal of Economics, February 2014.Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction, by Philip Tetlock“Gaining Edge by Forecasting Volatility and Correlations,” by Dan Rasmussen, Chris Satterthwaite, and Lionel Smoler Schatz, verdadcap.com, Oct. 30, 2023.Value Investing“Where the Value Investing Strategy Still Works,” by Dan Rasmussen, ft.com, May 23, 2024.“Factors from Scratch: A Look Back, and Forward, at How, When and Why Factors Work,” by Chris Meredith, Jesse Livermore, and Patrick O’Shaughnessy, osam.com, May 2018.“The Size Factor: Small Caps Are Trading at the Steepest Discount to Large Caps in Decades,” by Dan Rasmussen and Brian Chingono, verdadcap.com, Aug. 22, 2022.“The Small Cap Amplifier,” by Dan Rasmussen and Brian Chingono, verdadcap.com, Oct. 21, 2024.“Explaining International Valuations,” by Dan Rasmussen, verdadcap.com, Jan. 27, 2025.Private Credit and High Yield“The ‘Fool’s Yield’ of Private Credit,” by Jamie Powell, ft.com, Jan. 28, 2020.“Sizing Private Equity Allocations,” by Dan Rasmussen, verdadcap.com, May 13, 2024.“The Best Macro Indicator: Why You Should Be Following High-Yield Spreads,” by Dan Rasmussen, verdadcap.com, May 17, 2021.Crisis Investing“Crisis Investing in Europe: The Unlikely Winners in the Most Difficult Times,” by Dan Rasmussen and Brian Chingono, verdadcap.com, May 16, 2022.“EM Crisis Investing, A Deeper Dive: Understanding the Factors at Play in Emerging Markets,” by Verdad Research, verdadcap.com, May 3, 2022.

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• David Booth: ‘Usually the Great Ideas Start Out as Small Ideas and Then You Build on Them’

  Our guest on the podcast today is David Booth. He’s the Chairman of Dimensional Fund Advisors, a firm he founded in 1981. David led Dimensional as CEO and later Co-CEO until 2017, when he stepped back from the daily management of the firm. David helped create one of the world’s first index funds in the 1970s and launched the first passively managed small-company strategy in the early 1980s. He received a bachelor’s degree in economics in 1968 and a master’s degree in business in 1969 from the University of Kansas. In 1971, he received an MBA from the University of Chicago. Over the years, David has been a benefactor to both schools, and the University of Chicago Booth School of Business is named in David’s honor. David, welcome to The Long View.BackgroundBioTune Out the NoiseDFA US Small CapDFA US Micro CapPapers Mentioned“Stocks, Bonds, Bills and Inflation: Year-by-Year Historical Returns (1926-1974),” by Roger Ibbotson and Rex Siquefield, The Journal of Business, January 1976.“The Cross-Section of Expected Stock Returns,” by Eugene Fama and Kenneth French, jstor.org, June 1992.“Why Investors Missed Out on 15% of Total Fund Returns,” by Jeffrey Ptak, Morningstar.com, Aug. 15, 2024.OtherErrol MorrisMerton MillerEugene FamaMac McQuownRex SinquefieldRobert MertonDan WheelerDaniel Kahneman“Everything You Need to Know About ‘MADOFF: The Monster of Wall Street,’” by Ingrid Ostby, netflix.com, Jan. 4, 2023.“DFA vs. Vanguard,” The Rational Reminder podcast, Episode 351, youtube.com.“PHOTOS: A Look Inside the Booth Estate,” Austin American-Statesman, Feb. 13, 2020.

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• Cullen Roche: What Tariffs Mean for Your Portfolio

  Today on the podcast we welcome back Cullen Roche. Cullen is the founder and chief investment officer of the Discipline Funds, which manages the Discipline Fund ETF. In addition, he heads up Orcam Group, a registered investment advisory firm he established in 2012. He’s authored several books, including Pragmatic Capitalism: What Every Investor Needs to Know About Money and Finance, and he has a new book coming out next year called Your Perfect Portfolio. Cullen started his career as an advisor at Merrill Lynch and worked at an event-driven hedge fund before starting his RIA firm. He received his bachelor’s degree in finance from Georgetown University’s McDonough School of Business. Cullen, welcome back to The Long View.BackgroundBioDiscipline FundsDiscipline Fund ETFPragmatic Capitalism: What Every Investor Needs to Know About Money and FinanceYour Perfect PortfolioTariffs and Recession“Let’s Talk About Tariffs,” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, Feb. 3, 2025.“Weekend Reading—How Did We Get Here?” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, April 4, 2025.“Three Things—Tariffs, Of Course,” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, April 7, 2025.“American Economic Association 2021-2022 Universal Academic Questionnaire Summary Statistics,” by Charles E. Scott and John J. Siegfried, jstor.org.“Three Things—Is a Recession Coming?” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, Feb. 8, 2025.Defined Duration Investing“What Is Defined Duration Investing?” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, Feb. 21, 2023.“Defined Duration Investing,” by Cullen Roche, paper.ssrn.com, Aug. 8, 2022.The Fed and Global Investing“Three Things—State of the Markets,” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, Feb. 22, 2025.“Why Is International Investing Working Again?” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, March 26, 2025.“Three Things—Weekend Reading,” by Cullen Roche, disciplinefunds.com, April 19, 2025.Other“Cullen Roche: Macro Is About Understanding the World for What It Is,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Jan. 11, 2022.Milton Friedman“NY Empire State Index: Meaning, Benefits, Example,” by Adam Hayes, Investopedia.com, June 30, 2022.William Bernstein’s No-Brainer PortfolioMeb FaberThe Humble Investor, by Dan Rasmussen

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• Vincent Montemaggiore: ‘The Two Best Defenses Against Tariffs Are a High-Gross Profit Margin and Pricing Power’

  Our guest this week is Vincent Montemaggiore. Vince is a portfolio manager at Fidelity where he manages the Overseas Fund. The strategy is highly regarded by Morningstar’s manager research team. Prior to taking over Fidelity Overseas in 2012, Vince ran Fidelity Select Banking from June 2008. He joined Fidelity as an equity analyst in 2004. Vince has a bachelor’s from the University of Pennsylvania and an MBA from Columbia Business School. Vince, welcome to The Long View.BackgroundBioFidelity Series Overseas FSOSXGlobal Outlook“2025 Global Investing Outlook: Unsettling International Headlines Are Creating Opportunities for US Investors,” fidelity.com, Jan. 6, 2025.“Trump Tariffs and Investors: What They Mean for Inflation, Stocks, and the Economy,” fidelity.com, April 9, 2025.GRANOLAS Stocks Mentioned“Europe’s Magnificent 7 Stocks Are Profitable—And Cheaper,” by Jocelyn Jovene, morningstar.co.uk, Feb. 19, 2024.GSKRocheASMLNestleNovartisSAPAI and Companies MentionedRELXLSEG and Microsoft PartnershipOtherHitachiTokio MarineBill KennedySammy SimnegarJed Weiss

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• Jean Chatzky: What Women Need to Do Differently With Their Money

  Today on the podcast, we welcome back Jean Chatzky. Jean is the CEO of HerMoney.com and host of the podcast, HerMoney with Jean Chatzky. She has served as the financial editor of NBC Today for 25 years and is the financial ambassador for AARP. She appears frequently on CNN, MSNBC, and was a recurring guest on The Oprah Winfrey Show. She has written several New York Times bestselling books. Her latest is Women with Money: The Judgment-Free Guide to Creating the Joyful, Less Stressed, Purposeful (and, Yes, Rich) Life You Deserve. Jean also appears in my book How to Retire, where she talks about retirement planning considerations for women.BackgroundBioHerMoney podcastFinanceFixxWomen With Money: The Judgment-Free Guide to Creating the Joyful, Less Stressed, Purposeful (and, Yes, Rich) Life You Deserve, by Jean ChatzkyOpportunity KnocksAARPWomen in Investing and Financial Advisors“How to Choose a Financial Advisor,” video post by Jean Chatzky, Linkedin.com.“Jean Chatzky on Women in Investing: Are You Taking Control of Your Money?” by Melissa Houston, forbes.com, April 21, 2022.Annuities, Long-Term Care, FIRE“The High Costs of Senior Caregiving,” by Ella Vincent, Kiplinger.com, Aug. 3, 2023.“Long-Term Care Insurance Rate Increase Creates Big Headache,” by Jean Chatzky, aarp.com, Feb. 7, 2023.“Are Annuities a Good Investment? What They Are and Why Women Should Consider Them,” HerMoney With Jean Chatzky, episode 433, hermoney.com, July 24, 2024.“How to Retire Early Without Hating Your Life,” HerMoney With Jean Chatzky, episode 459, hermoney.com, Jan. 22, 2025.Other“Jean Chatzky: ‘Financial Stress Is a Big Topic in Need of More Oxygen,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Dec. 15, 2020.How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful, and Wealthy Retirement, by Christine BenzKaren FinermanMichael KitcesAlliance for Lifetime IncomeJean Chatzky The Today Show archives

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