In this special live episode, Devin is joined by Matt Ondler, Chief Strategy Officer at Axiom Space. Matt previously worked at NASA for 25 years where he led some of the agency's most ambitious projects in robotics, autonomy, and spacecraft systems. Now he's at Axiom, building the world's first commercial space station. Devin and Matt discuss how space might become an important manufacturing hub, the lengths Matt has gone to test something before launching it into orbit, and why squishy humans pose such a design challenge in space.[02:11] Matt’s Origin Story[03:23] Inspiring the Next Generation of Space Enthusiasts[05:40] Everyday Tech With Roots in Space[07:10] Building the First Commercial Space Station[10:35] Human-Centric Design in Space[13:39] Challenges of Space Environment and Testing[19:21] Robots vs. Humans in Space[21:22] Addressing Kessler Syndrome[23:59] Multiple Space StationsLinksDevin Liddell on LinkedInMatt Ondler on LinkedInTeagueAbout the Host: Futurist Devin LiddellDevin Liddell is the Principal Futurist at Teague. With over two decades of experience in innovation and design strategy, Devin has worked with industry giants like Boeing, Intel, and Nike, helping organizations anticipate changes across both near- and far-term horizons to create their preferred futures. Devin is a frequent contributor to Fast Company. Get in Touch Have a complex problem that needs solving? Have a great guest or topic idea? We want to hear from you. Visit us at teague.com or send us an email at
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