In this episode of Deeply Intents, I speak with Jeremy Ornelas of Heliax, the company behind Anoma and Namada. We begin the conversation by discussing the history of Erlang and Elixir, as well as what makes Elixir a good fit for Anoma. Next, we break down the dominion of Anoma, broadly outlining the distributed operating system vision. Thereafter, we discuss Anoma's Controller system in detail, which draws design inspiration from GenServers in Erlang. Later, we discuss the nuances of building hackable systems and shipping viable products. We conclude the conversation by discussing object systems, elegant system design, and the future impact of LLMs on developers.Timestamps(00:00) - Anoma loves Elixir(05:32) - History of Erlang and Elixir(11:29) - Phoenix(14:47) - Make cents for your bottom line(20:00) - Elixir is live and has actors(26:18) - Exploring the dominion of Anoma(32:26) - Controllers and local domains(38:27) - Ubiquitous compute(43:21) - Ethereum speaks Anoma(48:37) - All of this should be hackable(52:48) - Product focused organization(56:49) - What's the holdup on Anoma?(1:01:14) - Products that make sense(1:04:28) - Objects and Anoma Level(1:10:12) - Elegant design(1:14:20) - LLMs and quality
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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Respect the Graph - Shoaib Ahmed
In this episode of Deeply Intents, I talk to Shoaib Ahmed, researcher and engineer for Cycles Money / Informal Systems. We begin the episode with Shoaib's background, including his time working on SlockIt. Thereafter, we begin to unpack Cycles Money, discussing the concept of bringing liabilities on-chain, examples of debt-clearing cycles, and different types of settlement. Later, we discuss QuanTEEum, a new research paper published by Shoaib. Here we discuss the notion of quantum money and a marketplace for decentralized quantum compute. We conclude the episode by discussing the Cosmos ecosystem and trade-offs between building products and protocols.Timestamps(00:00) - God was a protocol designer(02:28) - SlockIT experience(03:53) - Gödel's incompleteness theorems(10:19) - CoFi & Speculation resistance(16:43) - Cycles Money(22:26) - Bringing liabilities onchain(29:49) - Walking through a cycle example(33:57) - Settlement(37:00) - Atomicity and blockchains(42:24) - Quartz, remote attestations & ZKPs(45:28) - Product(53:10) - QuanTEEum and One shot signatures(58:31) - Endgame: decentralized quantum compute(1:03:58) - Quantum Money(1:09:55) - The Cosmos ecosystem(1:12:23) - Protocol design vs. product
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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DeFi is the Future of Ethereum - Nikita
In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with Nikita, CEO of Barter. In this conversation, we begin by discussing Nikita's background in Ethereum DeFi. Next, we discuss how solvers work, hooks and composability, and liquidity provision. Thereafter, we discuss Superposition, which provides a fundamentally new approach to decentralized trading and liquidity provision. From there, we discuss liquidity, distribution strategies, and product philosophy. We conclude the conversation by discussing some best practices for BD and general optimism about Ethereum DeFi.Timestamps(00:00) - Discovering crypto(05:05) - DeFi Summer(06:08) - Learnings from time at 1inch(10:50) - Building a solver and getting hacked(16:43) - How solvers work(18:45) - Hooks and compossability(24:22) - Competition and acquisition(29:49) - Market is consolidating(34:54) - Who are the passive LPs?(40:48) - Superposition story(47:30) - Making AMMs outdated(51:58) - Endgame liquidity solution(55:42) - Passion and building teams(1:00:42) - Distribution strategy(1:05:38) - Cross-chain game(1:10:09) - Product philosophy(1:15:33) - Connect with anyone in crypto(1:19:06) - Ethereum is the place to be(1:20:51) - Advise for young business developers(1:25:00) - Find synergies(1:28:22) - WAGMI
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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Stop Optimizing Blockchains - Ole Spjeldnæs
In this episode of Deeply Intents, I chat with Ole Spjeldnæs, Founder and CEO of Delta Network. We begin the episode by discussing Ole's background in mathematics and what led him to blockchain. Next, we unpack Delta by discussing verifiability, shared state, and architectural affordances, including Domains. We finish up the conversation on Delta by discussing Byzantine eventual consistency, design philosophy, and credible neutrality. Thereafter, we discuss the product and go-to-market philosophy before concluding with a discussion refuting crypto dogma. Timestamps(00:00) - From Math to Delta(02:33) - Category Theory(04:56) - Finding blockchain(09:04) - Levels to B.S.(11:20) - Verifiability and shared state(16:50) - Reducing friction with verifiability(21:08) - Shared state and compossability(27:30) - Delta architecture(32:38) - State diff lists(35:13) - Integrability(41:09) - Domains, network effects, and trust(49:01) - Byzantine eventual consistency(53:34) - Design philosophy(1:01:20) - Scalability is oversold(1:05:07) - Approach to product(1:09:05) - GTM products(1:13:46) - Credible neutrality(1:20:37) - Context switching(1:22:51) - Crypto dogma(1:29:26) - User feedback
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
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Zero to One - Sid Gandhi
In this episode of Deeply Intents, I sit down with Sid Gandhi, CEO of Payy. We begin the conversation discussing Sid's product background at Apple and how that led him to build Payy. We then discuss Private payments, proof of lineage, and the particulars of Payy wallet and network. Thereafter, we spend time discussing product strategies, including ideal customer profiles, market segments, and finding product-market fit. We conclude the conversation by outlining the trade-offs associated with adding product features and following industry narratives. Timestamps(00:00) - Product at Apple(03:32) - Build for a real human(08:55) - Private payments(09:54) - Proof of lineage(12:57) - Deliver value to the user(17:52) - Finding PMF across ICP segments(24:08) - Raising the bar on product(28:06) - Is it 10x better?(36:28) - Navigating trade-offs(38:00) - Resisting industry narratives(40:57) - Talking to users(47:49) - Balancing the product roadmap(54:19) - Product features, when and how(58:13) - Product led marketing(1:02:16) - Play long-term games
DisclaimerNothing in this episode should be interpreted as financial, technical, or legal advice. The host does contract work for Heliax, a public goods laboratory, focusing on Anoma.
Deeply Intents is a podcast hosted by Apriori. There are two primary motivations; unpack Anoma with relevant guests, and have interesting conversations with values aligned builders. The podcast is long-form content, with an emphasis on the human element.
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