PAVEcast: A conversation about autonomous vehicles
Partners for Automated Vehicle Education

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Cars, Connectivity, and China: A Conversation on National Security with Rachel McCleery of SAFE
25/08/2026 | 17 minConnected and autonomous vehicles are transforming the movement of people and goods, but their implications extend beyond safety and mobility. In this episode of the PAVEcast, we interview Rachel McCleery, Executive Director of the Coalition for Reimagined Mobility at SAFE. Our conversation explores the intersection of vehicle connectivity and national security, the evolving policy landscape, and why U.S. leadership in advanced transportation technology matters.
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Read the AI in Motion Report- As AVs continue to advance on city streets and highways, automated vehicle technology is also expanding into new environments. From mining and defense to depot operations, automation is improving safety, efficiency, and productivity across different sectors.
Tune in for a conversation on how AV technology is being applied in these unique contexts and what lessons they offer for the broader future of autonomous vehicles. You'll hear from Paul Benfield of Forterra, Pete Bigelow of Kodiak, and Anuja Sonalker of STEER. - In this episode of the PAVEcast, we interview Matt Blackburn of Aurora on the findings of a recent Steer Group study highlighting the economic benefits of the autonomous trucking sector. Tune in for a discussion on the importance of separating fact from fiction, the future of the trucking workforce, and real-world consumer impacts.
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Learn about the US AV Jobs Coalition - Earlier this spring, PAVE and Stantec partnered with the Minnesota Department of Transportation (MnDOT) to host an educational and experiential AV Day at the Capitol for state policymakers and other community leaders. Tune in for a conversation exploring the public sector’s role in AV education and engagement, using Minnesota’s recent event as a case study. Speakers include Tara Andringa of PAVE, Thomas Johnson-Kaiser and Tara Olds of MnDOT, and Greg Rodriguez of Stantec.
- For autonomous vehicles (AVs) and human drivers alike, work zones present complex driving environments. Shifting lane markings, outdated map data, and the presence of human workers can make operating in these dynamic conditions especially challenging. Tune in for a conversation exploring how the AV industry is addressing these challenges and what opportunities lie ahead.
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PAVEcast is the official podcast of Partners for Automated Vehicle Education, a nonprofit coalition working to raise the level of public knowledge about autonomous vehicle (self-driving car) technology. Join us for a conversation about the future of transportation. You can find us @PAVECampaign on social media or on the web at www.pavecampaign.org.
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