On today’s episode, we tackle a question we’ve all wondered: Are dentists scamming us? We dive into the dark history of dentistry, find out why dental insurance sucks, hear from someone who uncovered a dentist drilling teeth for profit, and talk to a startup founder who’s looking to upend the whole industry.
Lilly Kaplan — licensed therapist and Reality Test newsletter author — sits in for Manny this week.
Listen to: Do you need therapy? (ft. Lilly)
Our guests this week are:
AJ Jacobs, journalist and New York Times bestseller.
Dr. Sarah Stuefen, general dentist in Iowa and spokesperson for the American Dental Association.
Dr. Cheryline Pezzullo, general dentist and clinical associate professor.
Dr. Brandon Zeidler, doctor of dental surgery.
Tyler Burnett, cofounder of Wally Health.
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