The RunOut Podcast

Jonathan Siegrist is a professional rock climber, widely regarded as one of the most prolific sport climbers in the world. He’s best known for pushing very hard sport routes, including numerous 5.15 ascents. This year he’s on track to reaching 100 routes rated 9a or harder.

But first, we discuss the latest local drama, from price hikes to redtags, and what it all means when you have to watch some kid put down the hackysack long enough to hike your project

Last, Kalous closes things out with his acoustic rendition of the 1972 soft-rock classic “Brandy(You’re a Fine Girl)” — reimagined for climbing.

Show Notes

Follow Jonathan Siegrist | https://www.instagram.com/jonathansiegrist

Jonathan’s 8a.nu | https://www.8a.nu/user/mr-gruntz

Training | https://trainingforclimbing.com/jonathan-siegrist-trains-5-15-climbs/

Latest FA | https://www.instagram.com/p/DYaCHlnlO-T/

Red Tagging in Rifle: The Debate Over ‘En Passant’ | https://www.climbing.com/news/red-tagging-rifle-en-passant/

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What good is finger strength if you don’t know how to use it? 

Lillian Frances is a self-produced indie pop star based in LA who has written a new manual called Finger Banging For Climber Boys* (And Everyone Else). We discuss all things digital stimulation and and celebrate centering female pleasure.

But first, what gets you stoked in climbing right now? Yer hyped-up hosts review some of the latest climbing news to surf the swell of stoke.

For today’s final bit, of course, we’re bringing back our guest Lillian Frances with her song Touching You. Check out the show notes for links to Lillian’s music, book, and more.

Show Notes

Follow Lillian Frances: https://www.instagram.com/lillianfrancess/

Follow Finger Banging for Climber Boys: http://instagram.com/fingerbangingforclimberboys

Buy the book: https://fingerbangingforclimberboys.com

Official website / EPK: https://www.lillianfrancesmusic.com/epk

Bandcamp: https://lillianfrances.bandcamp.com

SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/lillianfrances

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/LillianFrances

Reagan on Tales of Power in Yosemite: https://www.youtube.com/@reagan_rocks_rides

Yannik Flohé downgrades everything: https://www.lacrux.com/en/klettern/Yannick-Flohe-repeats-%22No-One-Mourns-the-Wicked%22-and-downgrades-it-to-8c

Patagonia news: https://www.climbing.com/news/climbers-spent-40-days-wall-patagonia/

Adam Ondra: https://www.youtube.com/@AdamOndra/videos

New harness bag: https://arcteryx.com/us/en/shop/lithos-sl-harness-9982

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Matt Samet is a sport-climbing pioneer, climbing lifer, writer, editor, and literary icon. His new role at the American Alpine Club is launching the American Climbing Journal, an annual perfect-bound book documenting the biggest and most interesting ascents of the year.

But first, what would it take to get you to quit climbing? Kalous briefly dreams of taking the easy way out before Bisharat knocks some sense into him, as per usual.

Last but never least, our final bit comes from climber Stefan Levinson, stage name WITHANEFF and the track Are Zombies Happy.

Show Notes

Follow Matt Samet — https://www.instagram.com/phorrizzler6514/

Follow the American Alpine Club — https://www.instagram.com/americanalpine/

Follow the American Alpine Journal — https://www.instagram.com/americanalpinejournal/

AAC — https://americanalpineclub.org

Stefan Levinson / WITHANEFF — https://soundcloud.com/stefanwithaneff

Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast

Melissa Strong is a climber, restaurateur, and writer. In 2017, she nearly lost her life in an electrical accident that left her with amputated and disfigured hands. Her new book is called Climbing Through: A Courageous Story of Grit, Healing, and Second Chances.

But first, we talk (more) about Dean Potter, the late climbing and BASE jumping visionary who is the subject of a new documentary called The Dark Wizard.

Today’s final bit is a listener-submitted homage to some climbing partners and community, from Daniel Kent.

Show Notes

Melissa Strong: https://www.melissaistrong.com

Follow Melissa Strong: https://www.instagram.com/melissaistrong/

“Climbing Through: A Courageous Story of Grit, Healing, and Second Chances: https://www.melissaistrong.com/about

Watch The Dark Wizard: https://www.hbomax.com/shows/dark-wizard/76e78c26-21c9-45b4-b84b-4c3e1f8ff763

Still getting “free climbing” wrong: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/the-dark-wizard-hbo-max-review/

The True Story Behind The Dark Wizard, via TIME: https://time.com/article/2026/04/13/the-dark-wizard-dean-potter-true-story/

Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast

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Ethan Salvo is a Canadian climber based in Squamish, who’s best known as the first Canadian to climb V16. That same week, he also climbed Dreamcatcher, Chris Sharma’s 5.14d. And this past he winter, he climbed Lucid Dreaming, the V15 in Bishop.

But first, your lukewarm podcast hosts discuss a hot take: Was hang dogging a mistake?

Our final bit is Jess Steven with a cover of “Black Flies”

Show Notes

Follow Ethan Salvo: https://www.instagram.com/ethansalvo

Ethan Salvo on Substack: https://ethansalvo.substack.com

https://blackdiamondequipment.com/blogs/stories/event-horizon

Follow Jessica Steven: https://www.instagram.com/peace.and.choss

Jessica Steven: https://jessicasteven.weebly.com/

This episode is sponsored by Patagonia. Check out their new Free Wall Kit: https://www.patagonia.com/free-wall-kit/

Become a RunOut Rope Gun! Support our podcast and increase your RunOut runtime. Bonus episodes, AMA, and more will be available to our Rope Guns. Thank you for your support! http://patreon.com/runoutpodcast

Contact us Send ideas, voicemail, feedback and more. [email protected] // [email protected]